Gibraltar 16 Bass Drum Riser
GeneZ, blujax01, K.O., and Stixnergard2,Thanks for the follow-ups. Since posting, I've been experimenting with a DW 5000 pedal, Gibraltar riser, and an 18 inch bass drum. I see what the key issue is and it's not the riser. I used Stixnergard2's and Drumsagogo711's suggestion about flipping the Gibraltar riser parts around so the pedal mounts closer to the head.
Danmar Bass Drum Riser
This works great and the contact point of the beater is similar to when the pedal is hoop mounted. However, with the drum raised and the pedal this close, the footboard tip hits the hoop! If I could complete the stroke, I'm guessing the chain will hit the hoop too.blujax01: I think your idea of putting an offset in the beater rod may be the simplest solution. Or, I could remove a link in the pedal's chain so the beater hits with the footboard higher up - not sure I'll like the greater angle though, especially for heel-down playing. Your wife is lovely indeed.Stixnergard2: I've been thinking of ordering a Yamaha Hipgig riser for a 16 inch bass drum I'm putting together.
Given the wood hoops on your Fibes, did you have to position the mounting bracket so the pedal is further away from the drum. To avoid the pedal's footboard tip and/or chain hitting the hoop as I'm experiencing with my 18? The bottom line is that if you are using standard bd hoops then the pedal will set further away from the head no matter which lift you use. This allows clearance for the chain/strap drive and sprocket. Gibralter here.
I don't know about you guys, but on my pedal (which happens to be an IC), you can adjust the stationary position of the beater relative to the head, so that the 'throw distance' is the same as if you weren't using the riser. This more than compensates for the slight difference in the physical position of the pedal.
I don't know if this feature is exclusive to IC pedals, and it does require me to keep a pedal specifically dedicated to the 18' kick, but it does solve that 'overextension' problem, at least from a playing standpoint. Everyone,Thanks again for all the feedback. This information you've all shared has been really helpful. I'd never have thought getting a beater to hit center would have so many solutions with pros and cons! Due to this thread, on the 16 inch bass drum, I've decided to use the Hipgig or Pearl riser, and regular tom hoops instead of upgrading to wood hoops (to allow the pedal to mount closer to the head).
Diy Bass Drum Riser
Also, major head manufacturers don't make their specialty bass drum heads readily available for 16s so using tom hoops provides access to the largest selection of heads that is available, which is tom heads. Bass drum versus tom heads require different hoops due to the differing head-collar offsets.)For the 18 inch bass drum, low weight, low profile, compact portability, and ease of use are still my major criteria. I'd also like a solution that is easily transferable from drum to drum and from pedal to pedal without need of radically modifying the drum and/or pedal (as is the case with cutting the hoop and/or bending the beater rod). After considering everything, I'm going to try combining xsabers' and sonicD's suggestions by using the Gibraltar riser, raising the front of the drum higher than the back, and adjusting the pedal so the beater hits at the point in the footboard's travel where I expect it to hit. Granted, if this works, I have a special pedal setup, but it's easy to bring that specific pedal or, if I don't have the pedal with me, to adjust another pedal the same way.K.O.: Thanks for recommending the Pearl JG-16. For the 16, I need a built-in riser and I may use the Pearl instead of the Yamaha Hipgig riser.xsabers: Thanks for your summary of the issues and option available. This put all the information in a single, concise place.Stixnergard2: Your feedback on Hipgig riser with your Fibes bass drum helped me decide not to put wood hoops on my 16.
Omkar prasad nayyar aao huzoor tumko. I'm still going to use the Hipgig riser or the Pearl JG-16 that K.O. Thanks for the help.sonicD: Your suggestion to adjust the beater travel in relation to the footboard is one I discounted early on. Because I've already got my pedal's beater travel adjusted at almost maximum. However, you caused me to examine my pedal again and I see it has more travel adjustment left than I thought.
Thus, I'm going to try your suggestion. Thanks for causing me to revisit this.Paul: I've ruled the Danmar riser out due to its bulkiness, however, I appreciate the information you gave while I arrived at this decision. Thanks for your help.